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 Post subject: Maiking a Maiko Han-eri
PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:12 am 
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I was just curious what are the dimentions of a Maiko Han-eri
I'm considering of embroidering one... And what is the length of the space between the white parts?

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 Post subject: Re: Maiking a Maiko Han-eri
PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:08 am 
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Well Polinah, I think that Golden Phoenix and 花魁の美 can answer that question very soon, they both just won a maiko Han-eri.....


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 Post subject: Re: Maiking a Maiko Han-eri
PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:25 am 
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I hope they will I would really appreciate it =)

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 Post subject: Re: Maiking a Maiko Han-eri
PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:51 am 
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polinah wrote:
I hope they will I would really appreciate it =)

If GoldenPhoenix doesnt beat me to it I would be more than happy to help! :smil3:
Also, If you want the gold speckles in it, buy this collar and embroider on it since it already has that and the dark red colour :wink:
http://page13.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/r62805525

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 Post subject: Re: Maiking a Maiko Han-eri
PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:24 am 
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You know that fabric looks like the han'eri that is worn with Sakkou, needs a few clusters of gold specks and that'd be easier to do than lots of white embroidery

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 Post subject: Re: Maiking a Maiko Han-eri
PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:46 pm 
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Okay, finally can sit down to measure :katana:
So, the whole length is 46.5 in. in length
Width: 6 in.
Width of white embroidery: 4.5 in.
Length of white Embroidery: 11.5
Space between embroidery:10.5
And the golden speckle dubers go past the length of the actual embroidery 2.2 inches
Sorry it took so long :sigh
If I missed something or details need to be posted let me know =D

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 Post subject: Re: Maiking a Maiko Han-eri
PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:03 pm 
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thanks 花魁の美!!

Jaki-san whats sakkou?

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 Post subject: Re: Maiking a Maiko Han-eri
PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:15 pm 
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the week before her erikae?


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 Post subject: Re: Maiking a Maiko Han-eri
PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:53 pm 
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Yup, Suara's spot on. In some districts (pontocho and miyagawacho i think...?) wear a red collar with gold flecks thru it before they turn geiko.

Ichiemi in sakkou and red/gold collar

Thanks for the measurements 花魁の美!

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 Post subject: Re: Maiking a Maiko Han-eri
PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:22 am 
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ohh that is pretty!!

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 Post subject: Re: Maiking a Maiko Han-eri
PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:36 am 
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Isn't it?! :kawaii: looks beautiful with that blue kimono too, there's a sakkou photo of Hisano with a similar ensemble:
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 Post subject: Re: Maiking a Maiko Han-eri
PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:24 pm 
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Wow that red against blue is striking! =D

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 Post subject: Re: Maiking a Maiko Han-eri
PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 6:14 am 
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Forgot to mention, when you get to the top/end of embroidery towards the center of the han'eri I would make the embroidery rounded. Like this
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Ive seen many of them like this

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 Post subject: Re: Maiking a Maiko Han-eri
PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:31 am 
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So after advice from Mojuko and Jaki-san, I finally decided to take a stab at creating a type of easy collar for my han eri. I figure before I move on to getting more stuffs, I need to fix up what Ive already got :]
This is the almost finished product. I have to permanently sew on the outer lining but that wont take long.
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Its not completely centered in the front but that will be fixedXD I have put two ties on the back of it for keeping the collar low, and also attatched a tie on the front bottom of the board under the han eri to tie it around and keep it secure from slipping out of place. All thats left is putting the white lining around to hold it all together. I wasnt able to get any back pictures because its kinda hard to get my camera around for a shot, plus I also want to put another tie in the center so the collar doesnt sit up off of my back. Materials used: about 80 inches of white silk fabric, one light weight paper board cut to shape, two white regular ties, and some sewing thread. Overall I think its going good. Any hints and comments would be appreciated since this is totally new to me :smil3:

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 Post subject: Re: Maiking a Maiko Han-eri
PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 2:41 am 
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It looks pretty sturdy/stiff and i think having two ties at the back will help keep it in place and also help it keep its shape.
A picture of the back would be handy, to see if it makes the right dip shape.
I think you've done a great job, the only thing I'm not sure about is the first photo with you wearing it, it looks like its pulled too far back, IE the left hand side of the han'eri you can see the end of it, but maybe I'm having trouble visualizing it without the kimono on.
Good job anyway!
Did you decide to give it a wash or did you just leave it?

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 Post subject: Re: Maiking a Maiko Han-eri
PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:28 am 
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It was pulled back a little far. I dunno why I did that but I did, so youre not having visual troubles :lol: I have to re sew it because it is uneven, the embroidery shouldnt be that far up on the left :unsure: I did not wash it because I didnt want to disturb the back where everything is tied up so I think next time I go to the dry cleaner Ill ask them what they can do...
Tonite or tomorrow Im going to do some fixing up and Ill definately get back pics then

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 Post subject: Re: Maiking a Maiko Han-eri
PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:31 am 
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Great! Your gonna have a authentic ensemble before long :katana:

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 Post subject: Re: Maiking a Maiko Han-eri
PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 4:23 am 
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Thank you very much for the measurements 花魁の美 I am also planning on making maiko Han-eri. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Maiking a Maiko Han-eri
PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 5:43 pm 
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^^ I wish I could get pictures of the detail how it's done, but my camera drowns out a lot of that kind of stuff. I did finally decide to get one of those ro eri sugata and sew it onto that so now it doesn't sit up off my back 3 inches like it did. I do want to know, do maiko sew the collar to the easy collar themselves, or do they have someone do it for them?

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 Post subject: Re: Maiking a Maiko Han-eri
PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 6:12 pm 
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I would guess the han'eri are way too precious to be trusted to inexperienced teenage girls! I assume that since they are worn daily, there is no need to take them off the easy collar, if they even are built separately (which I think is the case, since we do find those han'eri alone on YJA.)

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 Post subject: Re: Maiking a Maiko Han-eri
PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 6:50 pm 
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I wish I had half the skills to sew as you guys do!! :ermum
Once my vintage singer gets fixed, it's all out as far as making yofuku. I really want a maiko han-eri. They are sooo pretty! Must, find, fabrics!!! Rarrrgh
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 Post subject: Re: Maiking a Maiko Han-eri
PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 2:11 am 
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They may be gorgeous but theyre a pain to sew onto a sugata and make them look proper. My baby may have to be adopted by someone who knows what theyre doing rather than in my inexperienced hands :lol: I learned the hard way that they are not for begginers :sigh
I would suggest finding some old ro fabric or chirimen obiage to begin with. The rest isnt too hard as long as there is someone you know who can embroider (or get a fancy machine to do it for you).

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 Post subject: Re: Maiking a Maiko Han-eri
PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 3:16 am 
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花魁の美 wrote:
They may be gorgeous but theyre a pain to sew onto a sugata and make them look proper. My baby may have to be adopted by someone who knows what theyre doing rather than in my inexperienced hands :lol: I learned the hard way that they are not for begginers :sigh


I voluntere to adopt your maiko Haneri :katana: :P :P :P


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 Post subject: Re: Maiking a Maiko Han-eri
PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 3:26 am 
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OOOO Me too! I would love a maiko han-eri!! LOL :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Maiking a Maiko Han-eri
PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 7:47 am 
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Has anyone thought/tried changing a solid color obiage into a haneri..?

I'm thinking of buying one of those red obiage from Ichiroya and then start embroidering on it to form a maiko haneri...

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 Post subject: Re: Maiking a Maiko Han-eri
PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:05 pm 
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Chirimen is very stretchy, how hard is it to embroider?

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 Post subject: Re: Maiking a Maiko Han-eri
PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:21 pm 
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There is a Vlieseline ( in Germany it is called Soluvlies) for embroiderie, that you can iron on the backside, wich disappeares after washing it ones or just putting it in cold water. Maybe that helps?


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