Tokyo geisha and hangyoku

Post Reply
User avatar
IG Team
Administration Team
Administration Team
Posts: 3290
Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:53 pm

Tokyo geisha and hangyoku

Post by IG Team » Tue Jul 05, 2016 1:22 am

Katsumiyo-san:

do you know anything about tokyo geisha and hangyoku stages?
and make-up,hair,kimono?

is it true that hangyoku period is only for 6 months?

User avatar
IG Team
Administration Team
Administration Team
Posts: 3290
Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:53 pm

Re: Tokyo geisha and hangyoku

Post by IG Team » Tue Jul 05, 2016 1:23 am

Umekiko:

I recently posted some photos of hangyoku I found in the "Pictures!" thread.

Image

Image

Image

Photographer: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelprime ... 227627285/

User avatar
IG Team
Administration Team
Administration Team
Posts: 3290
Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:53 pm

Re: Tokyo geisha and hangyoku

Post by IG Team » Tue Jul 05, 2016 1:24 am

Dame:

I remember seeing the A&E Documentary and they showed the part where Hana-Chan visited her old Okiya. And you can see the Apprentice Geisha, Hangyoku (spelling??) in the doorway.

She looked more like this:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/quelgar/99211480/

than the girls in the Pictures topic.

She had the white makeup, the kanzashi (more than the Maiko did), the regular obi instead of the darari obi Maiko wear, and her sleeves (furi) were longer than the Maiko. Also, you notice how the Maiko's Kimono flows along the ground, the reason why when they go outside they have to lift it up, well you notice that the Hangyoku's Kimono is not as long, it goes down to the ankle

I also saw a video of a Hangyoku dancing on a boat and she looked like the girl in the picture as well.

So with all that in mind, I guess sometimes they wear the make up or sometimes they don't, I don't know...

User avatar
IG Team
Administration Team
Administration Team
Posts: 3290
Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:53 pm

Re: Tokyo geisha and hangyoku

Post by IG Team » Tue Jul 05, 2016 1:26 am

Umekiko:

Image

The photo tags say "Asakusa" and "Tokyo" and she's using her real hair.

Photo link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/8509783@N03/812891758/

Tokyo maiko aren't called maiko. They are called hangyoku - "half jewels" based on the Tokyo euphenism for a geisha's wages. Hangyoku are not hangyoku for very long - something like six months to a year, unlike Kyoto maiko who are maiko for up to five years. Some hangyoku wear wigs, while others use their own hair. It depends on location on what they do.

Tokyo geisha are also seen as being much more stylish and modern with their kitsuke and kimono. I believe both Dalby and Downer mention something about that. I'd have to go back and read about them, though, I can't remember much.

User avatar
IG Team
Administration Team
Administration Team
Posts: 3290
Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:53 pm

Re: Tokyo geisha and hangyoku

Post by IG Team » Tue Jul 05, 2016 1:27 am

desertlily:

I'm really interested in Tokyo geisha, now that I realize how little information there is about them. I remember reading in MOAG (no no, I know, not a good source) about how the Tokyo geisha were more modern, but other more reliable sources have said the same thing, so it's probably something that he actually got right. Their kimono are easier to walk in, their makeup a bit more practical, their obi musubi a bit more simple. When you really think about it, it's astounding how different the geisha of Tokyo and Kyoto are from each other. If the way they dress is so different, it really makes you wonder how different the system works for them as opposed to the geisha in Kyoto, and how they work their traditions while still being a bit more modern. If I were studying for a career in anthropology, I would definitely make it a top priority to find out.

User avatar
IG Team
Administration Team
Administration Team
Posts: 3290
Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:53 pm

Re: Tokyo geisha and hangyoku

Post by IG Team » Tue Jul 05, 2016 1:28 am

Umekiko:

I would enjoy studying anthropology when I reach college, but the problem is I can't speak Japanese! :eek: Otherwise, I'd totally go and do that. I would love to speak to Tokyo geisha.

edit for a new picture :kawaii:

Image

Interesting that the hangyoku has her neck done with the 'prong' shape.

Found what looks like a dance recital with Tokyo geisha and hangyoku (?):

http://www.pbase.com/lhoedicais/isap2007

User avatar
IG Team
Administration Team
Administration Team
Posts: 3290
Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:53 pm

Re: Tokyo geisha and hangyoku

Post by IG Team » Tue Jul 05, 2016 1:31 am


User avatar
IG Team
Administration Team
Administration Team
Posts: 3290
Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:53 pm

Re: Tokyo geisha and hangyoku

Post by IG Team » Tue Jul 05, 2016 1:33 am

hibana:

Image

User avatar
IG Team
Administration Team
Administration Team
Posts: 3290
Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:53 pm

Re: Tokyo geisha and hangyoku

Post by IG Team » Tue Jul 05, 2016 1:34 am

HATSUMOMO20:

Here are 5 pictures and 1 pictures captions reads
Hangyoku is similar to the Maiko in kyoto.In the Kanto area,called Hangyoku.It means young geisya.
I was part time hangyoku when I was a university student.long long time ago
1 2 3 4 5

User avatar
IG Team
Administration Team
Administration Team
Posts: 3290
Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:53 pm

Re: Tokyo geisha and hangyoku

Post by IG Team » Tue Jul 05, 2016 1:39 am


User avatar
IG Team
Administration Team
Administration Team
Posts: 3290
Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:53 pm

Re: Tokyo geisha and hangyoku

Post by IG Team » Tue Jul 05, 2016 1:41 am

ikasan:

I just find thoses website about tokyo geisha( hope it had'nt be posted before :oops: ) :

yokyo shinagawa's okiya: http://www.vin-de.sakura.ne.jp/matsunoya/index.html
Doujoji ( + blog de hangyuku ) : http://www.doujouji.co.jp

User avatar
IG Team
Administration Team
Administration Team
Posts: 3290
Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:53 pm

Re: Tokyo geisha and hangyoku

Post by IG Team » Tue Jul 05, 2016 1:43 am

Umekiko:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/deep_asakusa/tags/geisya/

Some nice photos of geigi and hangyoku - notice the ears of rice for New Years! Several of the geigi also are wearing their own hair!

User avatar
IG Team
Administration Team
Administration Team
Posts: 3290
Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:53 pm

Re: Tokyo geisha and hangyoku

Post by IG Team » Tue Jul 05, 2016 1:44 am

Ichiemi:

Those are the Matsunoya Geisha.

User avatar
IG Team
Administration Team
Administration Team
Posts: 3290
Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:53 pm

Re: Tokyo geisha and hangyoku

Post by IG Team » Tue Jul 05, 2016 1:45 am

nani-bird:

Regarding not much information about Tokyo geisha:

Not very detailed but still, what about Kiharu Nakamura's book? She was shimbashi geisha. I just started reading though, so I can't say much about it's qualities. :count:

User avatar
IG Team
Administration Team
Administration Team
Posts: 3290
Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:53 pm

Re: Tokyo geisha and hangyoku

Post by IG Team » Tue Jul 05, 2016 1:47 am

hibana:

Here's an article on Akasaka geisha. It's worth reading, even with the typical "dying tradition about to expire" slant. :sigh
“An Akasaka geisha can be likened to a peony,” says Ikuko, who has been an Akasaka geisha since she moved there from Kumamoto 45 years ago. “It’s more colourful than say, a lily. And peonies are overwhelmingly beautiful. I want my younger colleagues to feel the vigor and flamboyancy of a peony,”


User avatar
IG Team
Administration Team
Administration Team
Posts: 3290
Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:53 pm

Re: Tokyo geisha and hangyoku

Post by IG Team » Tue Jul 05, 2016 1:50 am

rubomiru:

Hi all, is anybody familiar with this website: http://namimura.com/ are tey geisha? Seems to me they are not geisha, hangyoku, geiko. So who are they? :)

User avatar
IG Team
Administration Team
Administration Team
Posts: 3290
Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:53 pm

Re: Tokyo geisha and hangyoku

Post by IG Team » Tue Jul 05, 2016 1:51 am

hibana:

Yes, they are real geisha from the Mukoujima hanamachi of Tokyo.

To this day, geisha from this district are apparently not considered top class or greatly accomplished in arts. In the past, customers from Yoshiwara would cross the Sumida river to Mukoujima, where the geisha provided similar services. In the movie Sakuran, one of the other courtesans taunts Kiyoha by saying that her lover has gone to Mukoujima, implying that her services weren't good enough to keep him around.

User avatar
IG Team
Administration Team
Administration Team
Posts: 3290
Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:53 pm

Re: Tokyo geisha and hangyoku

Post by IG Team » Tue Jul 05, 2016 1:52 am

otokoshi:

Image
くに龍さん
is Takachou???
http://www.transit-web.com/issue/kimono ... -vol2.html

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest